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	<title>Comments on: The Color of Our Genes</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Harnack, M.Rel.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Harnack, M.Rel.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Given that all humans on this planet can propagate across &quot;race&quot; lines and beget only humans;
2. Given that the majority of genetic differences across &quot;race&quot; lines are mostly based in geography, climate and nutrition;
3. Thus the main differences across &quot;race&quot; lines will not be in any major way statistically different between populations who may be perceived as different &quot;races&quot;, but are in all other ways raised sharing the same geography, climate and nutrition.

 Genomic studies will be useful for those needing to know more about genetic traits which may have grown in a particular line having nothing to do with the &quot;race&quot; (Tays-Sachs comes to mind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Given that all humans on this planet can propagate across &#8220;race&#8221; lines and beget only humans;<br />
2. Given that the majority of genetic differences across &#8220;race&#8221; lines are mostly based in geography, climate and nutrition;<br />
3. Thus the main differences across &#8220;race&#8221; lines will not be in any major way statistically different between populations who may be perceived as different &#8220;races&#8221;, but are in all other ways raised sharing the same geography, climate and nutrition.</p>
<p> Genomic studies will be useful for those needing to know more about genetic traits which may have grown in a particular line having nothing to do with the &#8220;race&#8221; (Tays-Sachs comes to mind).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael F. Sarabia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael F. Sarabia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Osagie K. Obasogie makes critically important points that must be considered in medical research because genetics &quot;…provide a structured framework to map the full range of health consequences of any proposal, whether these are negative or positive.&quot;

I am not qualified to add or subtract from his words and ideas but, I do think there is another aspect that is much too frequently ignored for the opposite reason, some medical studies do NOT consider the impact of genetic differences.
One, but not the worst, example was the need for Congress to pass a law to require new drugs to fight cancer must also be tested in women. This is not a racial issue, it is an incomprehensible issue, since women are more likely to die of cancer than men, certain kinds, at least, yet Doctors never objected to their exclusion in the tests, not even to determine the proper doses (my understanding).

I will not make any reference to the genetic study called &quot;Tuskegee Medical Experiment&quot; too awful to describe here. 

Both studies point to the issue of Medical Ethics in genetics and the cooperation of government and medical doctors in so-called &quot;medical&quot; study that made the Nazi Medical experiments seem angelic. The need for regulation, instead of depending on the &quot;good will&quot; of doctors who would claim &quot;None would ever do that again!&quot; is as key in Medicine as it is, now, recognized to be needed in Banking.

The flip side of the issue is the failure to recognize that genetic differences may require special studies. Actually, to prove that the differences do not matter, you must first do the study: Collect data, do the statistical analysis i.e., the study is essential to know the truth.

Take another example, who benefits and who is at risk if Medical &quot;Science&quot; merely assumes that Numerical goals for Diabetics, Body Weight, Body Temperature, Heart Rate, Healthy Cholesterol, Heart Beat Rate, Blood Pressure, etc. are all assumed to be identical, regardless of genetics?
How can you believe this is true, if the studies have not been made, yet?
We all know that some are affected by body weight and size because the statistics have been collected but, did you know that the only Longitudinal, long term study on blood pressure ever made was done by Anglo-Saxon Women, and the prescriptions for all races are based, to some extent on that one study? 
No self respecting Testing Aeronautical Engineer would accept the test results for one type of airplane makes testing another airplane type, say the A330, unnecessary.

In short, Dr. Osagie K. Obasogie views must be applied and expanded to include all genetics implications, regardless where they may lead, to allow Doctors to believe they truly follow their oath and &quot;Do no harm!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Osagie K. Obasogie makes critically important points that must be considered in medical research because genetics &#8220;…provide a structured framework to map the full range of health consequences of any proposal, whether these are negative or positive.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not qualified to add or subtract from his words and ideas but, I do think there is another aspect that is much too frequently ignored for the opposite reason, some medical studies do NOT consider the impact of genetic differences.<br />
One, but not the worst, example was the need for Congress to pass a law to require new drugs to fight cancer must also be tested in women. This is not a racial issue, it is an incomprehensible issue, since women are more likely to die of cancer than men, certain kinds, at least, yet Doctors never objected to their exclusion in the tests, not even to determine the proper doses (my understanding).</p>
<p>I will not make any reference to the genetic study called &#8220;Tuskegee Medical Experiment&#8221; too awful to describe here. </p>
<p>Both studies point to the issue of Medical Ethics in genetics and the cooperation of government and medical doctors in so-called &#8220;medical&#8221; study that made the Nazi Medical experiments seem angelic. The need for regulation, instead of depending on the &#8220;good will&#8221; of doctors who would claim &#8220;None would ever do that again!&#8221; is as key in Medicine as it is, now, recognized to be needed in Banking.</p>
<p>The flip side of the issue is the failure to recognize that genetic differences may require special studies. Actually, to prove that the differences do not matter, you must first do the study: Collect data, do the statistical analysis i.e., the study is essential to know the truth.</p>
<p>Take another example, who benefits and who is at risk if Medical &#8220;Science&#8221; merely assumes that Numerical goals for Diabetics, Body Weight, Body Temperature, Heart Rate, Healthy Cholesterol, Heart Beat Rate, Blood Pressure, etc. are all assumed to be identical, regardless of genetics?<br />
How can you believe this is true, if the studies have not been made, yet?<br />
We all know that some are affected by body weight and size because the statistics have been collected but, did you know that the only Longitudinal, long term study on blood pressure ever made was done by Anglo-Saxon Women, and the prescriptions for all races are based, to some extent on that one study?<br />
No self respecting Testing Aeronautical Engineer would accept the test results for one type of airplane makes testing another airplane type, say the A330, unnecessary.</p>
<p>In short, Dr. Osagie K. Obasogie views must be applied and expanded to include all genetics implications, regardless where they may lead, to allow Doctors to believe they truly follow their oath and &#8220;Do no harm!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis L. Oberholtzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis L. Oberholtzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well written article.  It should be noted though, that a gene can carry generational information for up to four generations, and then transform by omitting this (what I will call &quot;generational sequence info&quot;). Science has not looked at a division of DNA from this perspective as of yet. There can easily be a confusion of evidence between a &quot;race&quot; DNA, and that of &quot;generational sequence info&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well written article.  It should be noted though, that a gene can carry generational information for up to four generations, and then transform by omitting this (what I will call &#8220;generational sequence info&#8221;). Science has not looked at a division of DNA from this perspective as of yet. There can easily be a confusion of evidence between a &#8220;race&#8221; DNA, and that of &#8220;generational sequence info&#8221;.</p>
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