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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-7168</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jane Carter:
Antibodies are indicative of your body&#039;s immune response to a particular antigen - some unique surface on a viral protein.  These antibodies are typically protective because they stick to those surfaces and interfere with the virus.  The goal of most vaccines is to induce an antibody response to a non-infectious way to protect you from an infectious agent.  Antibodies can also be naturally produced in response to the actual infection itself.  

So if you have antibodies to TBE after a vaccination, that means the vaccine has likely worked, and you should be protected from infection in the future.  If you have antibodies to TBE without ever having been vaccinated, you have likely been exposed to the virus itself.  Depending on the course of the infection - it may have been cleared, or it may be ongoing.

We don&#039;t currently have a good vaccine for HIV, so antibodies to that virus are indicative that you have been exposed to the virus itself, are likely infected, and without treatment will develop AIDS.  HIV establishes is a uniquely scary infection because it is capable of escaping antibody responses.  

I hope that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jane Carter:<br />
Antibodies are indicative of your body&#8217;s immune response to a particular antigen &#8211; some unique surface on a viral protein.  These antibodies are typically protective because they stick to those surfaces and interfere with the virus.  The goal of most vaccines is to induce an antibody response to a non-infectious way to protect you from an infectious agent.  Antibodies can also be naturally produced in response to the actual infection itself.  </p>
<p>So if you have antibodies to TBE after a vaccination, that means the vaccine has likely worked, and you should be protected from infection in the future.  If you have antibodies to TBE without ever having been vaccinated, you have likely been exposed to the virus itself.  Depending on the course of the infection &#8211; it may have been cleared, or it may be ongoing.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t currently have a good vaccine for HIV, so antibodies to that virus are indicative that you have been exposed to the virus itself, are likely infected, and without treatment will develop AIDS.  HIV establishes is a uniquely scary infection because it is capable of escaping antibody responses.  </p>
<p>I hope that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Carter</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-7089</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing stopping scientific progress here is the fact that religious theology is being taught in our nation’s public schools over teaching science.&quot;

You are angry that *your* dogma isn&#039;t being taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing stopping scientific progress here is the fact that religious theology is being taught in our nation’s public schools over teaching science.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are angry that *your* dogma isn&#8217;t being taught.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Carter</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-7088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TBE FSME-IMMUN vaccine is claimed to prevent tick-borne myloencephalitis, and millions of doses have been administrated throughout Central Europe on this basis.  However, there has not been a single study which demonstrates that it has any effect on the disease.  What it *does* do, of course, is to produce an immune response.

So let&#039;s see: if someone has antibodies to HIV then they will get the disease and if they have antibodies to TBE this means that they are protected against the disease.

Perhaps somebody could explain why this is science and not hocus-pocus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TBE FSME-IMMUN vaccine is claimed to prevent tick-borne myloencephalitis, and millions of doses have been administrated throughout Central Europe on this basis.  However, there has not been a single study which demonstrates that it has any effect on the disease.  What it *does* do, of course, is to produce an immune response.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s see: if someone has antibodies to HIV then they will get the disease and if they have antibodies to TBE this means that they are protected against the disease.</p>
<p>Perhaps somebody could explain why this is science and not hocus-pocus.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-6643</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the subtle implication in the last poster&#039;s response that essentially science is impeding scientific progress in America.  

The only thing stopping scientific progress here is the fact that religious theology is being taught in our nation&#039;s public schools over teaching science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the subtle implication in the last poster&#8217;s response that essentially science is impeding scientific progress in America.  </p>
<p>The only thing stopping scientific progress here is the fact that religious theology is being taught in our nation&#8217;s public schools over teaching science.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Myers</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-6423</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQwaHxlHJuE&amp;feature=player_embedded

This youtube video link shows a person from Fox News reading a label from an H1N1 vaccine.  It reads as follows - &quot;safety and effectiveness of the H1N1 2009 vaccine have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers or persons less than 18 years of age.  

Then why would the US Govt. say its safe in a multi-million dollar ad campaign?  Why would doctors be touring the country saying its safe on behalf of the govt and the drug companies?  Why is the govt saying it is a must have for pregnant women and for children?  

Why did the US Govt exempt vaccine companies from being sued?

Folks, do you really want to keep going down this road of being blind to the obvious and get your family hurt, keep blindly listening to these multi-billion dollar profit boondoggles and putting your fellow man at risk by speaking of stuff you havent even researched very well yourself?

Its this sort of heinous, for profit process that has created zero confidence in this govt..  

Anyone willing to call this process science has got me completely at a loss. Lets see...we will say its safe and put on the label its not proven safe or effective yet we will say we know it definitively does not cause autism. Give me the H1N1 any day of the week over the risk of having a child get autism, or other condition like multiple sclerosis or a learning disability.  Science?  This country is 38th or worse in the health of its citizens and you think it understands health?   

Sorry folks, but the science just isnt there to support efficacy of vaccines...even if you could prove them safe.  Sure is profitable though, and sure is a great way to create a fear campaign and repeal some of the constitution and bill of rights when it suits.    

Friend of mine went in last week to the gynecologist and there were posters everywhere saying how safe it was, how you had to have it, and so on.  Are we that pathetically asleep as a society to put up with this outrage?  Come on people, at least go down swinging.  

Anyone want to take a stab at why the vaccine mfrs were exempted from being held liable for hurting people?  

This is your wake up call to take responsibility for your own health, and inject, definite pun intended, some real ethics and morals back into your society.  

Unbelievable. I think we have raised a whole society of zombies. 

&quot;There are at least two ways to relate to anything – a small-minded way and a large-minded way. Choose large mind.  - - Confucius</description>
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<p>This youtube video link shows a person from Fox News reading a label from an H1N1 vaccine.  It reads as follows &#8211; &#8220;safety and effectiveness of the H1N1 2009 vaccine have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers or persons less than 18 years of age.  </p>
<p>Then why would the US Govt. say its safe in a multi-million dollar ad campaign?  Why would doctors be touring the country saying its safe on behalf of the govt and the drug companies?  Why is the govt saying it is a must have for pregnant women and for children?  </p>
<p>Why did the US Govt exempt vaccine companies from being sued?</p>
<p>Folks, do you really want to keep going down this road of being blind to the obvious and get your family hurt, keep blindly listening to these multi-billion dollar profit boondoggles and putting your fellow man at risk by speaking of stuff you havent even researched very well yourself?</p>
<p>Its this sort of heinous, for profit process that has created zero confidence in this govt..  </p>
<p>Anyone willing to call this process science has got me completely at a loss. Lets see&#8230;we will say its safe and put on the label its not proven safe or effective yet we will say we know it definitively does not cause autism. Give me the H1N1 any day of the week over the risk of having a child get autism, or other condition like multiple sclerosis or a learning disability.  Science?  This country is 38th or worse in the health of its citizens and you think it understands health?   </p>
<p>Sorry folks, but the science just isnt there to support efficacy of vaccines&#8230;even if you could prove them safe.  Sure is profitable though, and sure is a great way to create a fear campaign and repeal some of the constitution and bill of rights when it suits.    </p>
<p>Friend of mine went in last week to the gynecologist and there were posters everywhere saying how safe it was, how you had to have it, and so on.  Are we that pathetically asleep as a society to put up with this outrage?  Come on people, at least go down swinging.  </p>
<p>Anyone want to take a stab at why the vaccine mfrs were exempted from being held liable for hurting people?  </p>
<p>This is your wake up call to take responsibility for your own health, and inject, definite pun intended, some real ethics and morals back into your society.  </p>
<p>Unbelievable. I think we have raised a whole society of zombies. </p>
<p>&#8220;There are at least two ways to relate to anything – a small-minded way and a large-minded way. Choose large mind.  &#8211; - Confucius</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-6260</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the vaccines may not be linked to autism, but how about other diseases? there was a girl on the news just a couple inghts ago in portalnd, oregon who shortly after getting the swine flue vaccine started having seasures and now cannot talk right and often has seasures. the news said her proble,s were directly related to the swine flue vaccination</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the vaccines may not be linked to autism, but how about other diseases? there was a girl on the news just a couple inghts ago in portalnd, oregon who shortly after getting the swine flue vaccine started having seasures and now cannot talk right and often has seasures. the news said her proble,s were directly related to the swine flue vaccination</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-5842</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very suspicious of modern vaccines, I had my first dose in 1999  (UK based, 48 years old, in excellent health and never been in hospital or really ill in my life before this) of tenatus/typhoid/polio for a foreign holiday and afterwards suffered form intestinal problems for years, then in 2005 I had booster vaccines and started passing blood, a few months later, this was diagnosed as ulcerative colitis and I was put on steroids which made the condition a lot worse and a few months after that and some 2 stone lighter (at just 10 stone/ 5&#039;10&quot;) I was taken into hospital seriously ill, put on intravenous drugs which again made me even worse (I thought I was on my way out!) and after 5 days they had to remove my large colon for fear it was about to perforate!
Now no-one knows what causes colitis or how to cure it but as its described as an auto-immune disease and vaccines work on the immune system but do they REALLY know what effect they have on the other parts of the system? I have now undergone 5 operations (last was 15 months ago) and am re-joined (intestinal wise), back to full fitness but I doubt I will ever risk having a vaccine again of any kind, of course my worries were dismissed by the doctors but they are not the ones who were seriously ill and with millions at stake for the drug companies no-one will admit the risk when maybe only a few thousand get colitis as a result. Anyone else out there have suspicions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very suspicious of modern vaccines, I had my first dose in 1999  (UK based, 48 years old, in excellent health and never been in hospital or really ill in my life before this) of tenatus/typhoid/polio for a foreign holiday and afterwards suffered form intestinal problems for years, then in 2005 I had booster vaccines and started passing blood, a few months later, this was diagnosed as ulcerative colitis and I was put on steroids which made the condition a lot worse and a few months after that and some 2 stone lighter (at just 10 stone/ 5&#8217;10&#8243;) I was taken into hospital seriously ill, put on intravenous drugs which again made me even worse (I thought I was on my way out!) and after 5 days they had to remove my large colon for fear it was about to perforate!<br />
Now no-one knows what causes colitis or how to cure it but as its described as an auto-immune disease and vaccines work on the immune system but do they REALLY know what effect they have on the other parts of the system? I have now undergone 5 operations (last was 15 months ago) and am re-joined (intestinal wise), back to full fitness but I doubt I will ever risk having a vaccine again of any kind, of course my worries were dismissed by the doctors but they are not the ones who were seriously ill and with millions at stake for the drug companies no-one will admit the risk when maybe only a few thousand get colitis as a result. Anyone else out there have suspicions?</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Ransom</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4559</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having clicked through to the Sunday Times reports in your article, I have to say that I am stunned by what I read. Brian Deer has the most incredible medical story I think I have read in my very long life. There needs to be some form of federal investigation into this, if not a criminal one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having clicked through to the Sunday Times reports in your article, I have to say that I am stunned by what I read. Brian Deer has the most incredible medical story I think I have read in my very long life. There needs to be some form of federal investigation into this, if not a criminal one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Lightning</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4511</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone researched the possibility of other more prevalent environmental factors which could promote the current and rapid increase in autism? Popular new foods, recreational drugs, skin lotions, biologically active fabrics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone researched the possibility of other more prevalent environmental factors which could promote the current and rapid increase in autism? Popular new foods, recreational drugs, skin lotions, biologically active fabrics?</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Lightning</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4510</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone done statistical research on the possibility that there is a causal relationship between a child&#039;s autism affliction and the parent&#039;s early experimentation with recreational drugs?  There is a much higher incidence of autism and there must be something in the environment which is promoting the tragically high incidence of autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone done statistical research on the possibility that there is a causal relationship between a child&#8217;s autism affliction and the parent&#8217;s early experimentation with recreational drugs?  There is a much higher incidence of autism and there must be something in the environment which is promoting the tragically high incidence of autism.</p>
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		<title>By: AutismNewsBeat</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4487</link>
		<dc:creator>AutismNewsBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Poling, do you and your husband plan to release Hannah&#039;s medical records so that these questions can be settled once and for all? I asked you this question at AutismOne in Chicago last year, and you responded by having me removed by the convention hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Poling, do you and your husband plan to release Hannah&#8217;s medical records so that these questions can be settled once and for all? I asked you this question at AutismOne in Chicago last year, and you responded by having me removed by the convention hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4485</link>
		<dc:creator>Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pazos,

Keep in mind that the Hannah Poling case was not argued in the sense that a hearing was not held, nor a trial.  Testimony was given in the form of expert reports, but the experts did not present their discussions verbally.

We don&#039;t know what was said in the expert reports.  There has been much discussion on the internet as to the why, with many people pushing the idea that the government refuses to make them public, while others have noted that there are indications that they could be made public if the Polings would agree.  The main point is that it seems highly unlikely that the actual reports will be made public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pazos,</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the Hannah Poling case was not argued in the sense that a hearing was not held, nor a trial.  Testimony was given in the form of expert reports, but the experts did not present their discussions verbally.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know what was said in the expert reports.  There has been much discussion on the internet as to the why, with many people pushing the idea that the government refuses to make them public, while others have noted that there are indications that they could be made public if the Polings would agree.  The main point is that it seems highly unlikely that the actual reports will be made public.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4389</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Poling, 

With all due respect, I believe you misinterpreted my argument regarding your daughter&#039;s case.  My assertion was that the evidence presented at trial fell short of scientific evidence for a causative link - not that legal evidence was not presented.  Certainly, experts argued on your daughter&#039;s behalf, but to the best of my knowledge their testimony primarily relied on making plausible medical arguments.  As far as I am aware, no data was presented that vaccines directly induced or exacerbated the encephalopathy suffered by your daughter.

I do not wish to rehash the details of the trial - in the article I linked to what I believe is a strong scientific interpretation of the events, and I encourage readers to seek out further information as they see fit.

As I mentioned, I strongly support further research into the etiology of autism, including into the arguments made during the trial.  Ultimately, biologically plausible arguments are often wrong, and for that reason need to be investigated and generate unbiased data before major changes to public health are made.  Currently no such data support these links.

I understand that you may take further issue with these statements, but I hope that, despite our disagreement, you can understand that my interests are not in manipulation or in making false claims.

Respectfully,
Mike Pazos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Poling, </p>
<p>With all due respect, I believe you misinterpreted my argument regarding your daughter&#8217;s case.  My assertion was that the evidence presented at trial fell short of scientific evidence for a causative link &#8211; not that legal evidence was not presented.  Certainly, experts argued on your daughter&#8217;s behalf, but to the best of my knowledge their testimony primarily relied on making plausible medical arguments.  As far as I am aware, no data was presented that vaccines directly induced or exacerbated the encephalopathy suffered by your daughter.</p>
<p>I do not wish to rehash the details of the trial &#8211; in the article I linked to what I believe is a strong scientific interpretation of the events, and I encourage readers to seek out further information as they see fit.</p>
<p>As I mentioned, I strongly support further research into the etiology of autism, including into the arguments made during the trial.  Ultimately, biologically plausible arguments are often wrong, and for that reason need to be investigated and generate unbiased data before major changes to public health are made.  Currently no such data support these links.</p>
<p>I understand that you may take further issue with these statements, but I hope that, despite our disagreement, you can understand that my interests are not in manipulation or in making false claims.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
Mike Pazos</p>
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		<title>By: Taia</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4388</link>
		<dc:creator>Taia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the tremendous effort that clearly went in to researching and writing this very informative piece.  It amazes me how diligent efforts to spur discussion around important issues can arouse such anger and resentment.  Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if everyone with something to contribute actually took the time to do so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the tremendous effort that clearly went in to researching and writing this very informative piece.  It amazes me how diligent efforts to spur discussion around important issues can arouse such anger and resentment.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if everyone with something to contribute actually took the time to do so?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Poling RN, JD</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4382</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Poling RN, JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pazos, 

As Hannah Poling&#039;s mother, I take major issue with your assertion that she was compensated even though, you say there was no evidence that the vaccinations injured or caused her regression?  Not only is that a ridiculous statement, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.  Manipulating facts to serve your argument is not at all persuasive.   I suggest that, in the future, if you want to discuss false claims, etc., you should start with your own.  
Terry Poling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pazos, </p>
<p>As Hannah Poling&#8217;s mother, I take major issue with your assertion that she was compensated even though, you say there was no evidence that the vaccinations injured or caused her regression?  Not only is that a ridiculous statement, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.  Manipulating facts to serve your argument is not at all persuasive.   I suggest that, in the future, if you want to discuss false claims, etc., you should start with your own.<br />
Terry Poling</p>
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		<title>By: Snead Hearn</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4379</link>
		<dc:creator>Snead Hearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pazos, while I agree in principle to your conclusions; I am troubled deeply by your refusal to acknowledge (not even a grunt of respect) the immense pain and suffering felt by the thousands of animals (particularly hedgehogs) during the development of these vaccines.  I have founded a league of concerned scientists, the Dedicated for the Betterment of Animal Treatment in Biology (&quot;DBATB&quot;) Society and expect you to join this league as a show of your respect (our meetings are held every Wednesday night).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pazos, while I agree in principle to your conclusions; I am troubled deeply by your refusal to acknowledge (not even a grunt of respect) the immense pain and suffering felt by the thousands of animals (particularly hedgehogs) during the development of these vaccines.  I have founded a league of concerned scientists, the Dedicated for the Betterment of Animal Treatment in Biology (&#8220;DBATB&#8221;) Society and expect you to join this league as a show of your respect (our meetings are held every Wednesday night).</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/vaccines-are-safe-and-vital/comment-page-1/#comment-4378</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a great overview...I find it amazing that I haven&#039;t heard about the falsified data in the original lancet study - seems like that should be shouted from the roof tops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a great overview&#8230;I find it amazing that I haven&#8217;t heard about the falsified data in the original lancet study &#8211; seems like that should be shouted from the roof tops.</p>
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