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	<title>Comments on: Readying the Global Flu Shot</title>
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		<title>By: Ian MacLeod</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/readying-the-global-flu-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-6226</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest that some of you look at what others are saying about this &quot;pandemic&quot; and the vaccine they propose to make mandatory? Allow me to offer some URLs where you&#039;ll read a different viewpoint:
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/p/dia/action/public...

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3617

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ottswinefluweapoized1918spanishflu02jun09.shtml

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/swineflucondos26apr09.shtml

http://whale.to/vaccine/sf1a.html#PREFACE

The W.H.O. instantly declared this a &quot;Level 6 Pandemic Alert,&quot; but the only way they could do this was to re-define &quot;pandemic&quot; making much, much less threatening. And the CDC went right along. Remembering that Big Pharma has enough influence that they were permitted to WRITE the Medicare Part &quot;D&quot; legislation, including forbidding Medicare to bargain for lower drug prices, this sudden lightening fast putsch to vaccinate, even to probably making it mandatory (at least two states have, and the federal gov&#039;t is likely to) makes me nervous. There is an entire faction in the medical field that is very afraid of this vaccine, so afraid they&#039;ve filed an injunction, several have, actually, to stop it. This particular vaccine is to have an adjuvant that is illegal and known to be dangerous, squalene, as well as aluminum and Thimerosol. They FDA says it doesn&#039;t contain Thimerosal (43% mercury), but another agency says it&#039;s to be mixed into the shot on site. 

Look before you leap, folks. I know a lot of people trust the medical establishment implicitly, but since the government &quot;immunized&quot; the pharmaceutical companies that are to make this vaccine and the people who administer it against any sort of tort claims or responsibility for any damages or deaths, I&#039;ve had to look more closely. I know of one doctor who intends to get the shot and have it given to his child; I&#039;ve spoken with quite a few others who intend to refuse it, even if it costs them their licenses!

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest that some of you look at what others are saying about this &#8220;pandemic&#8221; and the vaccine they propose to make mandatory? Allow me to offer some URLs where you&#8217;ll read a different viewpoint:<br />
<a href="http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/p/dia/action/public.." rel="nofollow">http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/p/dia/action/public..</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3617" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3617</a></p>
<p><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ottswinefluweapoized1918spanishflu02jun09.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ottswinefluweapoized1918spanishflu02jun09.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/swineflucondos26apr09.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://educate-yourself.org/cn/swineflucondos26apr09.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://whale.to/vaccine/sf1a.html#PREFACE" rel="nofollow">http://whale.to/vaccine/sf1a.html#PREFACE</a></p>
<p>The W.H.O. instantly declared this a &#8220;Level 6 Pandemic Alert,&#8221; but the only way they could do this was to re-define &#8220;pandemic&#8221; making much, much less threatening. And the CDC went right along. Remembering that Big Pharma has enough influence that they were permitted to WRITE the Medicare Part &#8220;D&#8221; legislation, including forbidding Medicare to bargain for lower drug prices, this sudden lightening fast putsch to vaccinate, even to probably making it mandatory (at least two states have, and the federal gov&#8217;t is likely to) makes me nervous. There is an entire faction in the medical field that is very afraid of this vaccine, so afraid they&#8217;ve filed an injunction, several have, actually, to stop it. This particular vaccine is to have an adjuvant that is illegal and known to be dangerous, squalene, as well as aluminum and Thimerosol. They FDA says it doesn&#8217;t contain Thimerosal (43% mercury), but another agency says it&#8217;s to be mixed into the shot on site. </p>
<p>Look before you leap, folks. I know a lot of people trust the medical establishment implicitly, but since the government &#8220;immunized&#8221; the pharmaceutical companies that are to make this vaccine and the people who administer it against any sort of tort claims or responsibility for any damages or deaths, I&#8217;ve had to look more closely. I know of one doctor who intends to get the shot and have it given to his child; I&#8217;ve spoken with quite a few others who intend to refuse it, even if it costs them their licenses!</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: jerry stolov</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/readying-the-global-flu-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-4392</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry stolov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick: AI planning has been focuced on emergency planning and response which basically is geared for episodic events of short durations Instead current thinking should go into long term survival and recovery from an invasion of AI which could come in three waves 6-8 week each or 18-24 weeks. Inorder for society to survive a preemptive approach is needed since most areas of the nation depend on world commerce. Consequently,  we know once mutated and the disease goes human to human a new approach is needed.To secure our borders CDC  USDept of State  and WHO should regulate  ThAT INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTERS AND AIR,AND SEA TRAVELERS GET IMMUNIZED 2 WEEKS PRIOR TO ENTERING OUR COUNTRY. AND VISE VERSA.( PROOF OF GETTING IMMUNINIZED MUST BE SHOWN ON PASS PORTS VISAS GREENCARDS ETC. THIS TYPE OF ACTION WILL SAFE GUARD FOOD AND OTHER VITAL IMPORTS FROM BEING INTERUPTED. THERE ARE OTHER COPONENTS AND SAFE GUARDS I.E USE OF RAPID SCREENING TEST UPON ARRIVAL AS A SAFETY NET,and quarrantine of crew if necessary and or use of antivirals if a recipient was incabating the disease  developed AI before he/she became immuned etc Also any outbreaks can then employ rapid response techniques developed by WHO and local health department in conjuntion other support personneland or responders. Thus the worlds prioities for sarce vaccinations should shift to protecting the transportation hubs and networks and  then focus protecting our population on a prioity basis altererd to accomodate our long term survial.Finally   the Japanese  have developed a Universal vaccine which can fight off any influenza A mutations. This finding may revolutionize how vaccines are produced and distributed in conjuction with other prepandemic  vaccines and if administered before the outbreak of a pandemic a peempton will occur,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick: AI planning has been focuced on emergency planning and response which basically is geared for episodic events of short durations Instead current thinking should go into long term survival and recovery from an invasion of AI which could come in three waves 6-8 week each or 18-24 weeks. Inorder for society to survive a preemptive approach is needed since most areas of the nation depend on world commerce. Consequently,  we know once mutated and the disease goes human to human a new approach is needed.To secure our borders CDC  USDept of State  and WHO should regulate  ThAT INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTERS AND AIR,AND SEA TRAVELERS GET IMMUNIZED 2 WEEKS PRIOR TO ENTERING OUR COUNTRY. AND VISE VERSA.( PROOF OF GETTING IMMUNINIZED MUST BE SHOWN ON PASS PORTS VISAS GREENCARDS ETC. THIS TYPE OF ACTION WILL SAFE GUARD FOOD AND OTHER VITAL IMPORTS FROM BEING INTERUPTED. THERE ARE OTHER COPONENTS AND SAFE GUARDS I.E USE OF RAPID SCREENING TEST UPON ARRIVAL AS A SAFETY NET,and quarrantine of crew if necessary and or use of antivirals if a recipient was incabating the disease  developed AI before he/she became immuned etc Also any outbreaks can then employ rapid response techniques developed by WHO and local health department in conjuntion other support personneland or responders. Thus the worlds prioities for sarce vaccinations should shift to protecting the transportation hubs and networks and  then focus protecting our population on a prioity basis altererd to accomodate our long term survial.Finally   the Japanese  have developed a Universal vaccine which can fight off any influenza A mutations. This finding may revolutionize how vaccines are produced and distributed in conjuction with other prepandemic  vaccines and if administered before the outbreak of a pandemic a peempton will occur,</p>
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		<title>By: Eskimo</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/readying-the-global-flu-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-4304</link>
		<dc:creator>Eskimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they talk about the deficiencies of making influenza vaccines in chicken eggs?
Or putting H5N1 antigens into seasonal flu shots?
Let&#039;s really talk about science policy, not just praise what the govt is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they talk about the deficiencies of making influenza vaccines in chicken eggs?<br />
Or putting H5N1 antigens into seasonal flu shots?<br />
Let&#8217;s really talk about science policy, not just praise what the govt is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://scienceprogress.org/2009/02/readying-the-global-flu-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-4288</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick - so glad you are training your never-miss-a-detail eye on this issue.  With (it seems) the entire military-industrial-government complex distracted by economic bail-outs and peanut butter mishaps, glad to hear our protectors get a good grade for protecting us from Avian influenza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick &#8211; so glad you are training your never-miss-a-detail eye on this issue.  With (it seems) the entire military-industrial-government complex distracted by economic bail-outs and peanut butter mishaps, glad to hear our protectors get a good grade for protecting us from Avian influenza.</p>
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