Comments on: The Perfect Storm? http://scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/ Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:59:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chip Daigle http://scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5215 Chip Daigle Thu, 14 May 2009 18:06:25 +0000 http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/#comment-5215 If you really think $3/Gallon gas will produce a perfect storm of Green Jobs and Green Investments, then raise the price of Gasoline in NY and CA and see if it works. If it works, then CA and NY will come out of the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Obama Recession before everyone else. If not only CA and NY will go thru the starving years. It's up to the Greens to put their money where their mouthes are. If you really think $3/Gallon gas will produce a perfect storm of Green Jobs and Green Investments, then raise the price of Gasoline in NY and CA and see if it works. If it works, then CA and NY will come out of the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Obama Recession before everyone else. If not only CA and NY will go thru the starving years. It’s up to the Greens to put their money where their mouthes are.

]]> By: Margo http://scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-2454 Margo Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:05:17 +0000 http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/#comment-2454 You know what? I had an uncle who told me when I was a young girl, "Always have an Ace up your sleeve." I never really gave this advice any serious thought until I got older. I don't think we should go around saying: "What if this and what if that", but should always be prepared for the what ifs in life. Doesn't the world know that there isn't always going to be an endless supply of natural resources? Again, let us pray! www.miraculousbeads.com You know what? I had an uncle who told me when I was a young girl, “Always have an Ace up your sleeve.” I never really gave this advice any serious thought until I got older.

I don’t think we should go around saying: “What if this and what if that”, but should always be prepared for the what ifs in life.

Doesn’t the world know that there isn’t always going to be an endless supply of natural resources?

Again, let us pray!
http://www.miraculousbeads.com

]]> By: llewelly http://scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-2414 llewelly Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:30:14 +0000 http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/07/the-perfect-storm/#comment-2414 Your comparison of August 23 2005 SSTs to July 22 2008 SSTs is downright weird. Since the Atlantic always warms between July and August, this doesn't tell us anything about the relative heat potentials of the two seasons. Why didn't you compare <a href="http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2005204atsst.png" rel="nofollow">July 22 2005 SSTs</a> instead? In any case - while the activity of this season has certainly been impressive - it is only about half of the activity the 2005 season had by this time of year. Remember Dennis peaked at cat 4 and Emily at Cat 5. The Atlantic isn't as warm overall. (Although the gulf near New Orleans - which is still defenseless in the face of a major hurricane - is actually warmer.) The surface pressures are not as low, and the upper level winds have not been quite as favorable. If the current rate of activity keeps up (possible, but not too likely), we might see 18-20 named storms by the end of the year (making 2008 among the most active on record) - but 28 named storms is out of the question. Finally - the high pressure ridge in the Atlantic is much further east than it was in 2005. The relatively far west position of the Atlantic high pressure zone guided a disproportionate number of storms to landfalls. We're not seeing that this year - and so this season seems unlikely to have 2005's disproportionate number of landfalls. However I think your speculation that today's higher gas prices increase our vulnerability to hurricanes is right on target. It would also be worth asking if employment rates are higher or lower than they were this time of year in 2005, and whether that might affect vulnerability. Your comparison of August 23 2005 SSTs to July 22 2008 SSTs is downright weird. Since the Atlantic always warms between July and August, this doesn’t tell us anything about the relative heat potentials of the two seasons. Why didn’t you compare July 22 2005 SSTs instead?

In any case – while the activity of this season has certainly been impressive – it is only about half of the activity the 2005 season had by this time of year. Remember Dennis peaked at cat 4 and Emily at Cat 5. The Atlantic isn’t as warm overall. (Although the gulf near New Orleans – which is still defenseless in the face of a major hurricane – is actually warmer.) The surface pressures are not as low, and the upper level winds have not been quite as favorable. If the current rate of activity keeps up (possible, but not too likely), we might see 18-20 named storms by the end of the year (making 2008 among the most active on record) – but 28 named storms is out of the question. Finally – the high pressure ridge in the Atlantic is much further east than it was in 2005. The relatively far west position of the Atlantic high pressure zone guided a disproportionate number of storms to landfalls. We’re not seeing that this year – and so this season seems unlikely to have 2005′s disproportionate number of landfalls. However I think your speculation that today’s higher gas prices increase our vulnerability to hurricanes is right on target. It would also be worth asking if employment rates are higher or lower than they were this time of year in 2005, and whether that might affect vulnerability.

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